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Probiotics for Anxiety

Discussion in '5-HTP, CBD, CEBT Therapy, SAM-e, Rhodiola, books' started by AnxietyBoy, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. AnxietyBoy

    AnxietyBoy New Member

    Interesting study on Probiotics for anxiety. Has anyone ever tried this particular strain?

    Earlier this week, researchers from the Human Microbiome Project published a flurry of scientific papers concerning those 90 percent of the cells in our bodies that are the commensal bacteria who live on and within us. Knowledge of these colonies of bacteria could lead us to amazing insights and new treatments for common and devastating diseases. While the brain, doubly protected from the outside by our skin and guts first, then our blood brain barrier, may seem far removed from the human microbiome, there is growing evidence that the trillions of beasties in our guts could communicate with our brains, and that some psychopathology could result from disturbances in the gut microbiome.
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    Earlier this year, another mouse paper hit the press regarding behavior and consuming probiotics: Ingestion of Lactobacillus strain regulates emotional behavior and central GABA receptor expression in a mouse via the vagus nerve
    I know that title might not make everyone's heart go pitter patter immediately, but it is actually Evolutionary Psychiatry exciting. In mice, anyway, it has been demonstrated that the wee beasties of the microflora have something to say about behavior and moods, and our behavior and moods can also affect the population of the gut flora (click some of the links above for more details). How the communication proceeds is a bit mysterious. Hopefully this paper will shed some light.
    First off, a little bit about GABA. It is the major inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system (glutamate being the major excitatory neurotransmitter). GABA is a nice glass of wine in front of the fire. GABA is restful sleep. GABA is tranquility and yoga. Not surprisingly, GABA plays a major role in conditions such as anxiety disorders and irritable bowel syndrome.
    Now let's introduce Lactobacillus rhamnosus. These little probiotic bacteria can modulate the immune system via manipulation of TNF-alpha and IL-8 (well known cytokines, or chemical signals produced by the immune system and associated with inflammation), and can change immune cell function. In addition, in rodents, the probiotics reduce the autonomic nervous system response to intestinal distention and alter small intestinal motility. That's a lot of long range action for a wee beastie.
    So, for the study, the researchers gave some mice probiotics, and other mice got broth. Then the mice were tortured in various ways to induce a stress response. Some of the mice had surgery to sever the vagus nerve (which is the major communication highway between the gut and the brain). And mice ultimately made the ultimate sacrifice to have GABA levels and mRNA levels measured in the brain.
    The results: Mice who got the probiotics were, in general, more chilled out than the control mice. The probiotic mice had lower levels of corticosteroid release in response to stress. Steroids are something the body pumps out as an emergency reaction to stress, and while in the immediate timeframe they can save your life (grandma lifting the car off the toddler, for example), in the long run, chronically elevated stress hormones like steroids can lead to depression, anxiety, heart disease, you name it.
    Mice who had their vagus nerves severed did not differ from the control mice in their behavior, so they did not experience the anxiety-killing effects of the Lactobacillus probiotic. This would suggest the communication from the bacteria (via its own neurotransmitters? or via immune modulation in the gut) definitely goes through the vagus nerve on its way to the brain to control behavior.
    In addition, when the brains of the little mice were tested, the amounts of mRNA of various types of GABA receptors (reflecting the amount of messages from the genes to create the GABA receptors) were higher in certain key brain areas of certain key subtypes of GABA receptor. Meaning mice who had the probiotics made more anxiety-reducing receptors in the brain. Interesting, no?
    So what does it all mean? Actually, the authors of the study summarize nicely (the "HPA axis" is the connection between the brain and adrenal glands and how corticosteroids are released and regulated):
    "Furthermore, in this study we observed that L. rhamnosus administration reduces the stress-induced elevation in corticosterone, suggesting that the impact of the Lactobacillus on the CNS has an important effect at a physiological level. Alterations in the HPA axis have been linked to the development of mood disorders and have been shown to affect the composition of the microbiota in rodents? Moreover, it has been shown that alterations in HPA axis modulation can be reversed by treatment with Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium. However, caution is needed when extrapolating from single timepoint neuroendocrine studies. Nonetheless, these data clearly indicate that in the bidirectional communication between the brain and the gut, the HPA axis is a key component that can be affected by changes in the enteric microbiota."
    So, once again, a common ancestral practice to consume fermented foods rich in probiotics is quite interesting. There is almost no evidence in humans as yet for psychiatric disorders (the only scientific evidence I'm aware of is discussed in my blog article here). But all in all the data and research looks to be very interesting, and perhaps promising. While some critics felt the Human Microbiome Project might be an enormous waste of money, I feel it opens the door to an amazing and previously barely uncategorized realm of human health, equivalent to the vast expanse of deep oceans we know so little about, but comprise so much of our planet.
  2. shashi

    shashi New Member

  3. AnxietyBoy

    AnxietyBoy New Member

    Can you elaborate?
  4. mousa

    mousa New Member

    Thank you for posting these information. It really helpful.
    I don't know how to explain it.

    I have social phobia especially when i speak and the focus on me.......

    I was using Probiotics for a month and i was facing some situations where i feel usually anxiety and i couldn't speak but i was much better with anxiety.

    I didn't know the reason until i stopped using it then the old Symptoms for the anxiety show up again. (it wouldn't come to my mind its because I stopped using the Probiotics) and i open this forum and i found your post and i tried it again and it worked for me.

    It didn't cure me 100% but it made me feel much better and thank you again for sharing this information here with us.
  5. AnxietyBoy

    AnxietyBoy New Member

    Really glad it worked for you. Do you mind telling me what brand you used? What strains are in this brand? The problem with Probiotics is there are sooo many strains and brands that just have dead critters in them that it is tough to find something that would work. Since you have had success this would be very helpful.

  6. mousa

    mousa New Member

  7. AnxietyBoy

    AnxietyBoy New Member

    It has Lactobacillus rhamnosus which is the probiotic mentioned in the study as having anxioltic effects. Very cool thanks for posting this.
  8. AnxietyBoy

    AnxietyBoy New Member

    Anyone else?

    This stuff has tremendous potential has anyone else tried it?
  9. AnxietyBoy

    AnxietyBoy New Member


    Tried PMing you but havn't heard back. You had said it was really helping you I am hoping you could post your experience on here positive/negative. Not many try this route but it seems to have good effects and some solid studies behind it. CCous if your out there let us know.

  10. mousa

    mousa New Member

    Hi Everyone
    I return back to mention one more thing regarding "how important that your digestion system in your anxiety and depression!"
    I add to the probiotic that I mentioned above enzymes supplement.
    And it had a FANTASTIC effect on my mood and social Phobia.

    Fixing your Colon and digestive system will help your health on many aspects ......just try it.

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